AHD types of flows: -- stationary/instationary -- 2D/3D 2D for instruction purposes and modeling, 3D for applications -- compressible: experience is there, only for in-house codes experience with fluent-compressible is limited to a few standard flow geometries -- turbulent: models experience with k-epsilon and Reynolds stress flows (cyclone separator) Re stress gives some flow properties qualitatively, quantitatively results are not always very good other models have not been used/tested -- separation for bluff bodies only, most of the time with a sharp corner in the boundary so that separation occurs always experience with square and round cylinders St and average forces OK, fluctuations wrong by (sometimes) orders of magnitude -- complicated geometries: -- complicated physics inclusion of electric forces (laminar) with user subroutines the MHD module costs 7250 euro extra (eternal, no support included) inclusion of buoyancy but still shear driven buoyancy driven flows we prefer to do with in-house codes especially with horizontal heated walls inclusion of strong rotation water tunnel testing (complete circuit, with porous media or real grid) -- complicated grid grids up to 1000.000 points tests on 100.000 points grids and geometries generated in gambit (so not very difficult) gambit not capable of generating complicated geometries, for instance pipes bended in a 3D fashion most geomtries consist of a rectangular or cylindrical outline with a few objects included -- geometry outline: -- gambit -- ProEngineer ProEngineer files cannot be generated with the standard (academic) license IGES can be generated but only a subset is supported by most packages, for not-too difficult geomtries it already went wrong -- grids -- gambit all geometries and grids have been generated under GAMBIT, ICEM and other seem to have more acpabilities but we have no license physics: -- multi-phase we have some experience with VOF (most in-house) but most experience is with particle-fluid, lagrangian (particles are tracked) -- heat transfer -- passive (shear driven) -- active (buoyancy induced) -- combustion Only in-house (DNS/LES), no experience with chamical reactions in tabular form etc -- other physics -- MHD -- parallel experience: speed up? ease of use? -- specific geometries/flows/techniques -- flow around cylinders sufficiently high Re -- flow around sphere sufficiently high Re -- electrical field working on particles -- finite size particles -- user subroutines -- only simple cases: electrical field, inflow BC -- typical geometries/flows that you do NOT with Fluent multi-physics: adding new equations, trying out FEMLAB single-user = 7000 euro academic = 1000 euro? not parallel!! fluid-structure in fluent is very limited low Re number flows (under 5000 on bulk) are not well simulated because: -- turbulence models are not good at it -- the collocated discretisation in fluent is not energy-conserving -- all discretisations of the advective terms include a limiter (ALSO central differences!) -- fluent vs other packages we have experience too with CFX 4.2 and CFX 5 CFX 4.2 CFX 4.2, the block-structured CFX CFX 4.2 had a good set of templates (including support!) for user subroutines, which is mostly lacking in Fluent plotting etc I did not like (it used an AVS based plotting interface) it could do only block-structured grids it had problems with very fine grid cells, as are very common in the case of airfoils (like 1.e-5 times the cord length) 2D/axi-symmetric objects were relatively easy to do, one had to use 1 grid cell in 1 direction (the z direction) although adapting existing geometries required care because the orientation of sub-geomtries had to be correct and no warning was issued in case it was not CFX 5 CFX 5: un-structured I only tested the first two versions, which were so bad that we can call them beta versions the (unstructured) version was very inaccurate at the time, which was the main reason to switch to fluent moreover it could not do axi-symmetric or 2D objects, they had to be emulated using 3D geometries with homogeneous BC in the 3rd direction which led to problems on grid-refinement, especially for axi-symmetric problems (2D or axi-symmetric are often used for instruction purposes ) the one thing I liked was the grid generator, it could build refined hex cell boundary layer grids near surfaces, also in 3D, and already had the possibilities of directing the refinement of the grid which have appeared only recently in Fluent CFX has been bought by Ansys now